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. >> and president obama and congressional republicans are making plenty of sound bytes about it all. but very little progress. abc's tahman bradley has the details from washington. >> reporter: democrats and republicans remain light years apart. here's president obama, in an interview with bloomberg tv, describing house speaker john boehner's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> reporter: the speaker's plan would raise $800 billion in tax revenue. but does so without raising tax rates for top income earners. the president says that's unacceptable. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: republicans, like rising star senator marco rubio, say raising taxes on the wealthy is the wrong approach. >> the tax increases he wants would fail to make even a small dent in the debt. it would hurt middle-class businesses and the people who work for them. >> reporter: so, that's the major holdup, taxes. republicans and democrats deeply divided. >> there
curb, president obama traveled to michigan to keep the pressure on republicans in congress. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh? >> no. >> we can solve this problem. all congress needs to do is pass the law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody. that means -- [ applause ] >> republican now admit that president obama has won the debate on tax rates. >> my view is, get the tax issue off the table. it's the weakest one for the republicans. >> boehner does not have unity behind him. so it looks as though his path is going to be to concede on rates. >> i guess what i'm saying is, i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what's going to happen. we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> republican lawmakers continued to undermine speaker boehner's negotiating strength. >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and
obama? exactly no one. not even rush limbaugh. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who could stop what's going to happen. >> with the fiscal cliff just 22 days away. >> we're down to the final three weeks. >> the president is on the move. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> president obama on the ground in michigan. >> i will work with republicans. >> delivering a speech at an engine manufacturing plant. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> i'm willing to compromise a little bit. >> they are ready to make a deal. >> they are ready to make a deal on tax rates. >> republicans know that they have to give on taxes. >> i don't think there's a republican alive who can stop what is happening. >> senator corker has nailed this one. >> the leverage is going to shift. >> you have to have leverage. >> we don't have the leverage. the power isn't there. >> could a secret meeting seal the deal when it come to the fiscal cliff? the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks.
is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step down. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> are you kidding me? >> he doesn't have a law to his name. >> he has been a singular failure as a political strategist. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> the disarray of the republican party. >> there is no progress. >> they don't know what they stand for. >> no progress. >> they don't know what to do. >> no progress. >> they have some real soul-searching to do. >> today the united states supreme court -- >> the supreme court used this afternoon -- >> said they would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. >>
.c., the standoff continues. house speaker john boehner says he's still waiting for president obama to make his next counteroffer to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday, but republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person, here on capitol hill or at the white house, there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes, something that does not appear likely any time soon. >> an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> treasury secretary timothy geithner said the white house is absolutely willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. while a handful of republicans seems willing to concede that point, the party seemed unchangeable. >> speaker boehner took a position, i think the day after the campaign, that said we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increas
are in a political cliff. >> republican ares are over the barrel are. >> obama is not letting up. >> this is a solvable problem. >> they are waving a white flag. >> in the 20 second sound byte world in which we live, that is the take away. >> they will be pushing that and it will go to the senate and we will lose. >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> we lost the election, sean. this is a solvable problem. >> he is not budging. >> obama is not letting up. >> there is no hard deal on the table yet. >> this is a dangerous game. >> they don't believe republicans are going over the cliff. >> let's go over the cliff. >> are they going to raise taxes on everyone? >> they will be push ping that and we'll go to the senate and we'll loose. ♪ ♪ >> there are 25 shopping days for a deal between congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not goi
congressional republicans and president obama before we go flying off the fiscal curb. today, from a kitchen table in northern virginia. >> this is a solvable problem. the senate at already passed a bill that would make sure that middle class taxes do not go up next year. to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate for going up for folks at the top two percent. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done for families like this one. >> that is the home of the santana family. house speaker john boehner could not find a table where he was welcome so he made no comment at the table. it has become kick ed test. >> are are you saying that for pr purposes they should give give in? >> yes, i am. >> you are saying to obama, we don't have a revenue problem, an. we lost the election, sean. >> yes, america, it has come to this. ann is trying to get sean to face reality. let's watch a bit more of the intervention. >> if they are going to raise taxes and buy the argument and co opt his language. >> no, they are not going to allow taxes to be raised on 98
obama. so republicans are trying to destroy unions in order to destroy the democratic party. you think it will work? 1-866-55-press. and you know what gets me? there's a much cheaper way and a much more direct way for republicans to get some of that labor support that usually goes to democrats if republicans would just vote for a living wage. if she would vote for work and families. if they would vote for the jobs bills instead of killing them all. if they would vote to extend unemployment insurance every time instead of opposing it. if they would just vote for what working families need, hell, unions would support republicans. they don't care. they support politicians who support them. so we can't let this happen in michigan. we're not going to let this happen in michigan. we're going to join all of the unions our union brothers and sisters in fighting back against this. peter, how can people get the word in because rick schneider says he'll sign this. we have to change his mind and tell him no, you cannot si
. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn't it? >> it certainly is. it's a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter, it isn't true. raising taxes on the wealthiest americans will not only solve the problems. it doesn't even address the core problems. the core problems, $16 trillion in national debt comes from government overspending. and we have sluggish growth. raising the taxes on anybody, whether it's the poor or the middle class or the wealthiest americans, doesn't solve that problem. and that's my point of frustration. let's figure out what the key problems are and solve those, instead of having the rhetoric and say we need more revenue. i gave the analogy, of giving a
. >> president obama on his twitter urged republicans who stepped in to avoid the fiscal cliff because if they won't listen to the president of the united states, maybe they'll listen to @muffinbust ee@muffin. >> the "eye opener at 8:00" is brought to you by the aarp. >>> i'm charlie rose. there are only three weeks left until the fiscal cliff, but there's signs this morning the stalemate in washington is starting to break. >> and that's good news for both sides of the aisle. president obama and house speaker john boehner met face to face sunday for the first time in nearly a month. major garrett is at the white house with where things stand this morning. >> reporter: speaker boehner has told the white house and his fellow house republicans he wants the outlines of a fiscal cliff deal no later than this saturday. and if that's to be achieved, events of this past weekend may have proved piftal. obama and boehner met here at the white house sunday, and that meeting left both hopeful those subsequent conversations at the staff level achieved little apparent progress. even so, the presiden
barack obama, trying to win that will truly be the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> that's a strong statement, but not entirely inaccurate. she will be a formidable candidate if the economy is improving and they get a budget deal. look, three times in a row, very rare, george bush, ronald reagan, last time it happened. nothing is given, but given the demog r demography, her appeal would be formidable. >> the republican party in four years, hopefully more competitive. governors getting their sfripz. marco rubbo and paul ryan, reframing the republican party. is it possible there could be a new republican party in four years? i certainly hope so. we'll see. >> i have been waiting for this all along. newt gingrich, saying hillary clinton formidable. my god. >> i believe hell has frozen over and cats and dogs now getting together. >> i want hillary to run. i'm excited. >> still ahead, on "starting point" we'll talk about my documentary that aired last night. what it means to be black in america. my new doc looked at racial identity. the cont
and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on, not in public and not in p
remember what republicans called their bill to repeal obama care? i do. it was an act to repeal the job killing health care law. now, the whole job killing thing has always been a bit of a talking point myth. a nonport dan study of the very similar health insurance mandate enacted six years in massachusetts showed, quote, no evidence of reduced employment as a result of health reform there. still, that argument, the whole job killing obama care thing, sent the owner of red lobster and a bunch of other very carb friendly restaurant chains on a hapless misadventure in corporate protest that culminated today in a public and embarrassing and informative way. back in october, company called darden restaurants announced they were putting more workers on part-time status in stead of full-time to see if they would be able to limit the cost of complying with the new health reform law. under the new law, big companies like darden have to either offer health insurance or pay a $2,000 fine for each full-time employee. over 30 employees who ends up using public subsidies to buy health care. you catc
to pass obama's tax plan much less agree to other policies. josh earnest is not giving any details into yesterday's. some republicans are coming around on improving higher tax rates for the wealthy. bob corker said on fox news sunday, obama does have the upper hand on taxes. oklahoma representative tom cole said on cnn's state of a union if brought to a vote they would pass the house. that goes against speaker boehner's tone who seems to believe obama's plan would not be able to pass both chambers of congress. as far as what americans think of the president right now that is pretty evenly split. the new politico battleground poll just out today has his approval rating at 50%. more than billcat bill press" is coming up after our break. join us in the chat room at current.com/billpress. see you there. viewer for capella university. matter. >> i work with adults with developmental disabilities. growing up i had a single mother of four and people in the community were so helpful when they didn't even have much themselves. seeing people and their hardships made me
-- the republicans are saying we need deep savings in entitlement spending and president obama saying he won't compromise on raising the tax rates for the wealthiest americans. >> shannon, you said the republicans are waiting for the president, the president is waiting for the republicans. we're all waiting for everyone here. what kind of deadlines are we talking about? >> we could be looking at a potentially serious deadline for friday, a de facto deadline of sorts with be john. once they reach a deal, the legislative process could actually take two weeks to put into effect. so we're bumping up right against friday that they would potentially need to have a deal in place so that we wouldn't actually go over the clip. it's been serious business but this week could be even more serious, john. >> friday seems pretty quick. we'll see. shannon travis, thanks very much. >> seven minutes past the hour. we're learning more about petty officer first class nicolasd. checque. he's described as hard-working and enthusiastic. he joined the navy in 2002 after graduating from high school and entered the s
republicans will be to blame if we do go off the curb. when asked in an interview, when he and house speaker john bain her sit down together and hammer out a deal. president obama said this: >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that is relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner's counter offer yesterday to president obama which included a mythical increase in tax revenue of $800 billion obtained by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax deductions was taken seriously by no one in the senate except republican jim demipt. speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive c
worry mr. obama might cave to republicans, their biggest fear, the president will do what he considered in 2011, raise the eligibility age for medicare, a top house democrat monday warned the white house to tread lightly. >> now that would save a lot of money for the federal government and look good on the balance sheet but he's not going to vote for it and i'm not going to vote for it. >> reporter: this is a big part of the story to come. if there's a deal that's a huge break-through but lawmakers still have to vote for it and democrats oppose large structural cuts to medicare and most republicans oppose income tax rates on the so-called wealthy. that's why lawmakers were told not to make big fiscal travel plans because the crisis could go to new year's eve. >> political director john dickerson joins us. how does a unionized state like michigan become a right to work state and what does it say about the politics of the country today? >> well, it becomes a right to work state by having a legislature that's dominated by republicans, and this is, it's extraordinary. we just had an electio
hikes and spending cuts. >> with just 27 days to go, republicans are not talking with the obama administration and the president is only talking on tv. major garrett is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. yesterday at the white house there were vague references to conversations about the the fiscal cliff with congress iion republicans. i can confirm this morning through my sources here at the white house and on capitol hill that there were no substantive conversations or negotiations yesterday at all. no formal e-mails, to conversations, nothing. house speaker boehner's countdown led to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> three, two, one. >> reporter: but washington is counting down this month to the dark unknown of the fiscal cliff. >> thanks for having me. >> reporter: on his first view sbr interview on the fiscal cliff, he rejected john boehner's proposal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> reporter: raising taxes on households earning more than $250,000. >> we'll have to see the
that, right? so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willing to destroy the global economy. and so they figure there is no real need to cut a deal now, because if that deal, particularly if they deal includes concessions like taxes, just wait a couple of months, take the debt ceiling hostage and make everybody believe you'll shoot. this is making boehner weaker. it gives haas republicans an excuse to ignore the cuts the deal he makes. they say oh, we'll just wait it out. the concern that bainler cut a deal that he can't actually deliver, or at the last minute he'll back off a deal because he won't have the votes. the white house, by the way, they don't think the debt ceiling is republican leverage. when you talk to them, they are all steel right now on that subject. their position is simple, and they deliver it in the tone of voice bruce willis reserves for talking to terrorists. they are not negotiating. not on that. if republicans go over the cliff and try to open up talks for raising the debt ceiling, the white house says they will not hold
if president obama and congressional republicans can't head off big tax increases and government spending cuts that are now 25 days away. for now, the administration is looking at the economy's bright side. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan loathian. >> reporter: the white house says it is another indication that the economy is starting to heal from some of the wounds inflicted by the economic downturn. vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administratio
and california. the republicans may still blow it. if president obama is flexible and they don't meet him part way, republicans would contribute to a recession that would discredit them for a decade. but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day. what did he focus on? he focused on jobs, on proving that conservatism actually helped all americans, not 53%, not 47%. and yesterday when i talked to jim demint on the phone, i expected to hear one thing. instead i heard another. which is we've all been chained to this republican message. we have got to prove again that conservatism helps all americans. we've done a terrible job delivering that message. we've electe
directly to president obama. is there anything you can do at this point to stop it? >> i got to tell you the people are outraged not only is this anti-worker and anti-family, the way these republicans are going about it is anti-american. introducing it in a lame duck session at the 11th hour, locking people out of the capitol literally, that's what they did last week and tried to shut off my microphone. it is anti-american the way they're going about this and the reason there are so many people at the capitol today is because they're mad at heck and not going to take it anymore. there were 8,000 people at the capitol before i even got my kids off to school this morning. >> the legislation doesn't prevent anybody from joining a union so they'd argue what is the problem. if unions are strong people will join them and it will work out. >> they're saying this is more freedom for union members to have a choice. well that's just baloney. if they believe this, if they really believed in that, that it was good public policy, why are they trying not to have any hearings? why are they having an en
to look ahead to a senate without jim demint and whether some republicans will side with president obama in this fight over raising taxes on the rich. ♪ [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. get to holiday fun faster swithout shriners hospitals,he things i'm able to do. my life would be completely different. when i was seven, we found out i had scoliosis. everything changed when they stepped in. it was like they gave me my future back. tori's life is one of nearly a million changed by donations from people like you. send your love to the rescue. donate today. >>> let's discuss what we just heard in our strategy session. joining us three cnn contributors, democratic strategist donna brazile, erick erickson, editor and chief of conservative blog redstate,.com. and david frum, a former bush white house speech writer now contributing editor at the daily beast and newsweek. guys, thanks very much. erick, you know jim demint. were you surprised by his announ
faith? 56% thought obama and democrats would. only 43% thought the republicans would. will the president not act in good faith? 38% thought president wouldn't act in good faith. 51% thought republicans wouldn't act in good faith. but if there's no deal and the country goes over that fiscal cliff, taxes go up for everyone, mandatory spending cuts go into effect, a lot of folks are going to say where was the president? he was just re-elected. why couldn't he put together a package, a deal to avoid this disaster? >> i think this is a question of political leadership. and as that poll showed, there's no doubt that the president has the political advantage going into this. but at some point, and i think we're kind of getting close to it, the president has to be able to pivot and to say how do i turn this political advantage into a real policy accomplishment? and, wolf, i don't think you're going to do that with continued campaign style events like we just saw meeting with middle class families. okay. we get that. that occurred during the campaign. the white house has clearly gotten its messag
today, the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to raising taxes on the rich. all this week we've been focusing on what it is about this congress and this administration that makes it seem like compromise is a dirty word. certainly the extremes in the party seem to view it that way. we've been talking with past congressional leaders who have sat down at the negotiating table, facing sharp differences with the other political party in the past and still managing to come out with a deal. today i spoke a short while ago with trent lott, author of "herding cats: a life in politics." >> senator lott, you and senator mitchell wrote op-eds. you said one solution is to hold congress at hearings, marking up legislation. most americans would agree with that but be surprised to hear, i mean, that's their job. i think most of us, you know, would assume, isn't that their job description? >> well, they've slowly slipped away. for several years now. they don't do appropriations bills before the end of the fiscal year, not even before the end of t
obama in 2008. he traveled with him to iraq and afghanistan. so there are lots of republicans, i would have to say, who would not be happy with chuck hagel. he was opposed to the surge in 2007 in iraq. so there are some republicans who might challenge him. >> the cia director, too. so i wouldn't necessarily rule that out. >> there is. >> and what about susan rice? >> that is, of course, the big question. my sources say, the president is still very close to her. a huge susan rice fan, as someone said to me. but this source also said the longer she hangs out there the harder it is. of course, last week was not a great week for her. as you recall, she went to the hill to try to asage republican concerns and mf them came out of that lessen thenthusiast. the president is the one who makes these decisions and he's a huge fan of susan rice. >> well, we'll see what he does. >> and don't forget, in the top four cabinet posts, susan rice is a woman. and i think there's a real sense of diversity in that they'dke to see a woman in one of the top four jobs. >> there should be a woman in the top fou
labor unions. >>> here in washington, republicans turn the tables on president obama. we're going to tell you what specific information they are now demanding. >>> and who was she? you're going to find out why a century's old mystery may be closer to a solution. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we begin with today's dramatic defeat for union workers in the industrial's heartland. this was the scene as republicans pushed through right to work bills saying that they don't have to pay union dues in in order to get a job. on lookers chanted, shame on you after the vote. this is a watershed moment because michigan is the same as countless union struggles, including this 1932 march where five people died and dozens were injured when unemployed workers were attacked by police and ford motor company security guards. after decades of gains, fewer than 12% of u.s. workers now belong to unions. in michigan, it's fewer than 18%. cnn's poppy harlow is at the state capital in lansing. how did it go? >> reporter: are an historic day in michigan. a state at the heart of organized
to averting the fiscal cliff. president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all
. >> eric, all during this presidential election, we heard from both republicans and democrats saying look, this is a clear choice between romney and between obama, and it was very clear on obama wanted tax raise for the highest income americans. didn't the american people make that choice in voting for him, the electoral college and the popular vote? so isn't it incumbent on republicans to at least accept some upper income tax raise there? >> i think that the american public voted for the status quo. they voted for the gridlock that they had before the election. i think it's a little foolish of the american people to think they are going to get something different based on what they voted for. >> you think they want the status quo? >> -- largely for redistricting. well, they voted for it. whether they wanted it or not, to think these people are going to change long-held habits based on one election, i think is a little bit silly. we're going to have gridlock in washington and frankly, i think gridlock is a good thing, not a bad thing. it keeps congress from taking away more liberties. >>
obama's administration faces a new challenge now. forming the cabinet. he wants new faces so the cabinet wouldn't look like a, quote, second stringers. he's already facing opposition from republicans. here's emily schmidt. >> reporter: a white house photo op. >> this is an opportunity to meet with my wonderful cabinet. >> reporter: an imminent cabinet shuffle is expected. >> the president has got a lot of very good people to choose from, but he wants to put together a team, especially in international affairs, a team overall that going into the second term doesn't look like a group of second stringers. >> reporter: it's already politically charges. susan rice is thought to be a leading contender, but some republicans have been highly critical of rice following the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they even got a problem with me. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> senator jokingly gave the post to senator john kerry. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent
, straight ahead. >>> house republicans give president obama a counteroffer on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. will it be a compromise the president can agree with? >> flames shoot more than 70 feet in the air as a gas explosion destroys homes in one community. what went wrong? that story, coming up. >>> guests include elijah cummings, charlie crist and marsha blackburn. "starting point" begins right now. >> hi, everybody. holiday shoppers scrambling for cover at a crowded mall after a gunman opened fire. 10,000 people inside the clackamas town center mall when a man wearing a mask suddenly started firing. chaos erupted. when it was over, three people dead, including the shooter himself. a young woman left wounded, fighting for her life right now. >> the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families, feel comfortable that this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. and these things aren't supposed to happen. >> i want to begin with dan simon live in portland. we know that the police have identified the shooter, but is there any indication of a motive
about republicans in effect jumping ship, saying it's time to go along with president obama in raising tax rates on the rich to avo avoid the fiscal cliff. erin burnett's been looking into that. she's going in depth on that tonight. what have you found out? >> it seems more and more likely that we're going to end up in a situation where we get a pretty awful deal if we get a deal. there's not going to be a grand bargain, which is a big failure, but are there going to be republicans who are willing to make serious corp. mizs. tom mcclint ok's going to be our guest. we're going put the hard questions to him tonight, plus, wolf, you remember amy copeland, the young woman who went on the bungee jump and got the stitches and had to go back because of the flesh eating bacteria? >> what happened? >> well, she survived and she is our special guest tonight. she was honored with a woman of the year award and her story is pretty incredible. she talks about what she still struggles to do, whether there are still moments in the middle of the night where she feels life isn't fair. >> i'll look forwa
." >>> we begin with president obama getting into a new fight with republicans and it's a fight he may actually lose. this afternoon in detroit, the president blasted a package of anti-union bills. michigan republicans, governor, is ush pushing through his state's legislature. >> what we shouldn't do, i just got to say this, what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. >> even though the cheering went on for nearly half a minute, it looks like those anti-union bills may, in fact, have enough support to pass michigan's legislature, despite union threats of massive demonstrations. cnn's alison kosik is in the capital, lance, watching what's going on. explain what the fight is all about, why it's so intense. >> reporter: well, first of all, here at the michigan state capit capital, it's more about the calm before the storm. those demonstrations of thousands of people descending on the state capitol. police are gearing up for what's coming up tomorrow when the votes are expected to happen. what this is all about is the ri
is an issue, and as far as social issues, which i feel passionately about, i do think that obama in his second term has a chance of really making a difference, and i'm sure some issues that the republicans have, these kinds of issues are not as high a priority for them as perhaps they should be. >> last question. climate change. there's still people who believe that's not really -- that doesn't really exist. that this is not man made but something that happens. how do you convince people it's real? >> well, i mean, i'm not a scientist. 95% of scientists, 98% of scientists in the world believe it is a man-made problem, and you simply just got in fragile world and buildup of carbon around the world creating this blanket. every year we pump more carbon in, and that makes the blanket thicker all the time. the world is heating up a little bit all the time. simplistically it seems logical. >> we're going to look at life of a musician who taught the beatles athing or two about music. he died yesterday. we'll look at the cultural impact his music had on the world. all waking up. connecting to the glob
's no budging on either side. >> they said there was a lot of support there. president obama said i'm sticking to my guns also. the president is warning the republicans next move will be to use the upcoming vote on the debt ceiling as leverage in the budget battle. let's listen. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> i will not play that game. >> yes. >> is that something republicans are considering, and if so, i guess how would the white house respond? although i guess we're seeing a little bit of it there. >> i think you clearly see how the president would respond. this is where the question of leverage comes in to play. he came out of the election, he says that he ran on this issue of raising tax rates on wealthy. he believes he is very much the leverage in this negotiation and so you don't see him budging. republicans see the little levers that they
the republican party made the last two years is trying to make obama the issue without sharing with america bold reform ideas that get people inspired to get behind us. >> following the rules of the senate south carolina's governor will be named with an immediate successor to fill demint's seat, and then the state will hold a special election for the voters to choose a permanent replacement. we'll have more at the top of the hour, and also, this story. a brave young boy who lost his home and his school in hurricane sandy. well, he is now talking about coping with life. >> when something brings you down, you got to get up. >> you okay, buddy? >>> one family is doing more than a lot after the tragedy that destroyed tens of thousands of homes on the east coast. [ wh] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. [ woman ] ♪ what i want this season ♪ if you'd like to try and guess ♪ ♪ it is something very special ♪ i wou
. president obama arrived today in michigan at daimler plant outside of detroit to give a speech on the well-being of the american middle class, and the american economy. and ultimately, what republicans are doing right now with no notice in michigan. >> what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. [ cheering ] we shouldn't be doing that. you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. >> michigan republican governor rick snyder was invited to attend the president's speech today in his state. the governor declined. he did not show up. but the governor and the president did speak on the tarmac at the airport when the president's plane landed in michigan, and the length of their conversation at least makes it appear that it was more than just a hey, how are you. on top of all that today, the entire congressional delegation, at least the democrats from the michigan congressional delegation all came back today to try to save union rights in their stat
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